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Apr 14, 2010
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by: Tony

I am asthmatic too and have had attacks during practice, but only when I get in late and don't warm up, or when I have a cold.

Before haya suburis I run 10 times round the dojo with the breathing practise described above, then some good stretching to keep your mind off your body when starting the suburis.

Hope it works, and remember asthma is very psychological too...when you face the number 100 you usually get tense and that makes it worse. If my sensei tells me one day to do 1000 I will probably get an attack on the spot :-D

Kendo-Guide.Com: Thanks for sharing. You should tell your sensei about your asthma now so you have an excuse :) Joke aside, you should tell your sensei about your health condition. It is important for sensei to know.
Apr 14, 2010
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by: Nigel

I have asthma and as long as I take my Salbutamol inhaler before training I tend to be OK. Sometimes the time of year i.e. high pollen count or dry/warm air make some difference.

I find that straight into 2 sets of 100 haya-suburi is very difficult for beginners and I build-up my class from a count of 30 or 40 upwards in increasing sets.

Kendo-Guide.Com: Thanks for sharing!
Apr 06, 2010
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by: Juan

I'm a bit overweight so I have also breathing problems, at the beginning was very hard for me.
But you must train your body to breathe better.

Take it easy and just stop before you have an asthma attack, I'm sure this won?t affect your kendo abilities.

Greetings from Colombia

Kendo-Guide.Com: Thanks for your kind advice!
Apr 02, 2010
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by: Val Serezhkin

Respect!

I shall try the exercise. I have no asthma, but I guess the exercise can help to increase stamina.

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Apr 02, 2010
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by: Z (dutch kendoka)

Before I did any sports, doing intensive exercises made my asthma come back, even though it was not really that bad, i did notice it. I also used to have medication like you.

I have found though, that if you really put effort into breathing correctly (especially during haya suburi) it becomes a lot easier to do. So I can only recommend that you do breathing exercises to improve your lung capacity. I think that's even the method they used to cure asthma before there was any medication to cure it back in the 50ies and stuff.


There's also this one exercise that I sometimes do while running to warm up. It goes like this, first you breathe in every 4 steps you take and then you breathe out 4 steps again, after a while (30 secs to a minute or so) you increase the number of steps between changing from breathing in to breathing out and vice versa by two. So eventually you breathe in 6 and breathe out 6, then 8, then 10 and higher. You should try to keep at that level as long as you can and then you go back again to 8, 6 etc.

At the end you breathe in and out with every step you take so for instance left is in and right is out, which sounds like it's some sort of pregnancy exercise.

To make the counting of the higher step numbers easier psychologically you can count only the left or right foot and divide the total number in half.. so you only count the left foot for 5 times when you do the 10 step breathing in for instance. You can't do that with the single step breathe obviously. But you can for all the others.

If you do this regularly.. like before every training (if running is part of your warm up like it is with my training) you will notice that you can get higher counts after a while. This will definitely help you with haya suburi, since haya suburi is like when you breathe in and out with every step so if you can do that comfortably you can probably do haya suburi for a lot longer than 200, i know i can, and i couldn't do it before.


I hope this helps, because I've never actually met another person with asthma (that i know of) doing kend?

Kendo-Guide.Com: Thank you for your post. The breathing technique surely help other people too.

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