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What team is winning

by Russian Kendo Guide User

I have visited one local kendo tournament and they had a problem of defining a winner in team competitions.


Here it is: 3 teams competed in final pool. Team A, B and C.

A vs B: equal number of individual winners and equal number of points scored.

A vs C: A won by number of individual winners (A is a winner)

C vs B: equal number of individual winners, C made 3 points and B made 2 points scored.

And 2 points of view:

1)A-1st place, B-2nd place, C-3rd place. (A had 1 win and 1 tie; B had one tie with A and ?one tie with C?; so C had 1 tie and one loss )

2)A-1st place, C-2nd place, B-3rd place. (A had 1 win and 1 tie; B had one tie with A and ?one loss with C?; so C had 1 win and one loss)

That is the question is about teams B and C. Who should have had 2nd place and who - 3rd place?

Here is the part of official rules from 23rd European Kendo Championship:

6.1.5.1.2.    Team Classification.

Determination of the winning team in both league and tournament matches will be made in the following order of precedence:

1. Highest number of individual winners; but, if it is a tie, then

2. Highest number of points scored.

3. Should 1. and 2. still be a tie, a draw will be declared in the  league matches and a play-off will be
conducted in the tournament  matches.

4. A default is regarded as a loss: the opponent is given 2 points.

Determination of the ranking of teams in each zone of the league matches will be made in the following order of precedence:

1. Highest number of matches won; but, if it is a tie, then

2. Highest number of individual winners; should there still be a tie, then2

3. Highest number of points scored.

4. If two teams turn out to be even in all of the cases 1. through 3., a play-off between a representative of each team will
determine their position3.

Thanks!

Answer: Thanks for your post. I am not good at numbers! :)

So let's see.

A vs B: equal number of individual winners and equal number of points scored.  

- The result: Complete tie

A vs C: A won by number of individual winners (A is a winner)

- The result: A Won.

C vs B: equal number of individual winners, C made 3 points and B made 2 points scored.

- The result: C Won

In this kind of situation, we have to count the number of wins as team first. B did not win at all so B becomes 3rd.

Now the total wins as a team are tie between Team A and C because they both win one time. According to the European Kendō Championship rule,  you have to count highest number of individual winners.

Since A vs B and C vs B had the equal number of individual winners but A defeat B by the number of individual winners, A should be the 1st place.

Now I am not so sharp with this kind of thing, so if I am wrong, please forgive me :)


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