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What is kukan datotsu?

by Jorge Villarán
(Perú)

I have tried to find the correct translation to “kukan datotsu” and I have found that means "Striking an imaginary opponent". Does this means all tandoku dosa strikes are kukan datotsu? If I do men suburi and then the same but with a receiving partner, can the later one be called kukan datotsu too?

Thank you very much

Answer: Kukan datotsu and suburi are similar. However Kukan datotsu, to me, has a wider definition, compared to suburi.

If you strike a men, kote, do and tsuki of your imaginary opponent with fumikomi, it is not called “suburi” but “kukan datotsu”, I think.

It is simply because the movements involve actual striking movements (i.e. it involves datotsu (striking an (imaginary) opponent). Maybe I could conclude that if suburi involves fumikomi it is "kukan datotsu".

So tandoku dosa is "kukan datotsu" or "suburi". Most of them do not involve fumikomi so they are suburi. However, if they involve fumikomi, then they are kukan datotsu. And yes if you have a receiving partner, called motodachi, then it is not “kukan datotsu”.

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A little bit confused
by: J. Villarán

Thank you for your reply, Sensei. I am little confused. I read on the web the outline of "Kendo DVD Collection Vol 1 by Hidekatsu Inoue" video and in the part of fundamental techniques, he states "kukan datotsu" (which includes men, kote, do and tsuki but zenshin suburi style) and later "kukan datotsu with stomping footwork".

In that video, suburi is between kukan datotsu and kukan datotsu with stomping footwork, but it is not clearly stated as being part of kukan datotsu.

Now I have read the answer that kukan datotsu is every strike to an imaginary opponent with stomping footwork and now I am little more confused.

Thank you for your patience and reply.

Answer: I would say "kukan datotsu" includes suburi with and without fumikomi, whereas suburi refers to only kukan datotsu without fumikomi. Is it much clearer?

Don?t worry about it too much though. Some people have this definition and others have that definition.

So if Inoue sensei uses the definition mentioned above, it is his definition of kukan datotsu. Some other sensei may have different definition.

It is our job to know various possible definitions so that we can adjust our definition to theirs. I do that all the time.

Hope this relax you a bit. :)

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